The React19 Podcast

Michael Locke | Transforming Pain Into Purpose

Episode Notes

In this episode of the React 19 podcast, host Ann Forti engages in an impactful conversation with Michael Locke, who shares his harrowing experience of suffering from a COVID-19 vaccine injury.

Michael’s injury has led to a cascade of severe health issues, including neurological problems, blood clotting disorders, and debilitating symptoms that drastically altered his life. 

Despite visiting numerous specialists, he faced significant challenges in obtaining a diagnosis and appropriate treatment.

Michael's journey from a healthy 21-year-old competitive body builder to a vaccine-injured individual grappling with severe health issues underscores the challenges faced by many in the vaccine-injured community. His experience highlights the importance of persistence, community support, and advocacy in navigating these challenges. By sharing his story, Michael aims to raise awareness and provide hope to others who are navigating similar struggles.

Michael reviews in detail his treatment thus far, here:

https://rumble.com/v628ebt-large-improvements-vaccine-injury-eds-mcas-nervous-system-connective-tissue.html

Michael’s YouTube Channel (Outdated Currently): https://youtu.be/9B8L9H7fxQQ

If you are interested in the PEMF machine, please contact Michael and he will help you with the ordering process.

You can reach Michael at: Michaellocke6321@gmail.com

Follow Michael on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094863409291

Other Links and Information discussed:

Connective Tissue and Vaccine Hypermobility Article:
https://open.substack.com/pub/amidwesterndoctor/p/the-hidden-link-between-hypermobility-5a5?r=1zu6qf&utm_medium=ios

DMSO Article:
https://open.substack.com/pub/amidwesterndoctor/p/how-dmso-protects-and-heals-the-internal?r=1zu6qf&utm_medium=ios

Lifewave copper peptide articles:
https://www.drleakelley.com/lifewave-phototherapy
https://clinmedjournals.org/articles/ijsem/international-journal-of-sports-and-exercise-medicine-ijsem-9-250.php?jid=ijsem

CIRS Testing Markers:
MSH – Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone
MMP9 – Matrix Metallopeptidase 9
TGF beta 1 – Transforming Growth Factor Beta 1
Plus C4a C3a.  And  VEGF

Treating CIRS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dPNjLhe2OY
Other Tests I Plan to Do Now:
OATS Test
Epigenetic/Genome testing

Episode Transcription

Michael Locke (00:00:00) - So I got the shot. And within 90s, there was this. All I can describe it is as an eruption. Up the left side of my body. I went to cardiology and rheumatology and three ER visits. Eventually I made my way to neurology and orthopedic doctors, and I had scan after scan after scan after blood test, after blood test, after blood test. And not a single person could suggest. Not a single doctor could suggest to me what was wrong. For the first 30 doctors that I saw prior to realizing that it was the vaccine, not a single one noted even posited that it was the vaccine. Figured out that I had clotting, both the micro clotting and larger clotting from the from the the low platelets. I lost the ability to sweat and that my nerves just stopped working. I had the pots and the dysautonomia blood pooling in the feet, the extreme constipation and motility problems, extreme food reactions everywhere, the constant fight or flight issues. It's just been a constant whirlwind of of learning.

Michael Locke (00:00:54) - And it seems like I know more than a lot of the doctors at this point, but at this point, I think it's that they don't want to know. Once I started positioning the conversation to doctors around, it was the vaccine. Several of them, doctors, pharmacists have told me that if they spoke out negatively against the vaccine, they would be at risk of losing their position. So you're right. The whole world is telling you you're nuts. And the doctors and your family are. They don't believe you. yeah. It's it's been the ultimate challenge. I've spoken with, like, literally like, on the phone, spoken with hundreds of people from Israel, from Australia, Mexico, Canada, the United States, Germany, Britain, France. I've talked to people all over, and I realized they're all over. There are so many of us who are in their 20s, teens, 30s, 40s.

Ann Forti (00:01:39) - For anyone who has listened to you speak, the overriding message that resonates from you is, I just want to help.

Ann Forti (00:01:47) - Welcome to the react 19 podcast, where we bring awareness and support to the Covid 19 vaccine injured and discuss the science, research and laws that affect all of us. Hi everyone. Thanks for joining us again today. I'm Anne, 40, the host of the react 19 podcast. And today my guest is Michael Lock. Michael was injured by the Covid vaccine back in June of 2021. And since that time, like so many other vaccine injured, he's been living through a nightmare. However, even in the midst of his struggles, he has been on a mission to share everything he's learned to bring help to all of those who are suffering and looking for answers as well. Michael, thanks so much for being here today.

Michael Locke (00:02:36) - Thank you for inviting me. It's been a long time coming.

Ann Forti (00:02:38) - Yes. Okay. For anyone who has listened to you speak, the overriding message that resonates from you is I just want to help. And I believe for all who are listening in today, you will accomplish that goal by sharing so much of what you have learned.

Ann Forti (00:02:55) - And so I would like to get us started by you having just briefly summarize where your life was before the vaccine and what has happened since. So go ahead and just start from the beginning.

Michael Locke (00:03:11) - I suppose the story really begins in January 2020, when Covid itself really started to to start to begin. I was 19 years old. I was a sophomore, just starting at UConn, University of Connecticut and stores. And there was one day where I went to the gym and something just didn't feel right. I felt off my body, didn't feel like my own. I was just I was disassociating from myself. Panic episodes and food reactions and so on. And I just thought I was having a mental breakdown. And adjacent to that, there were there were there were new stories about a worldwide pandemic that was breaking out. So I dropped out of school, came home, had about three months of utter, utter hell, but came out of it eventually. This was during the Covid lockdowns when everyone was was losing their minds and wearing masks and shutting down.

Michael Locke (00:04:01) - I now realize that that episode was a prolonged period of long Covid, but that didn't begin to compare what happened after the vaccine about a year later. So I was in lockdown for about a year, just like everyone else in Connecticut. finished college online, got a job, and an internship slash job. And things were going sort of. Well, I was still dealing with the long term implications of Covid from a neurological perspective. Just headaches and panic and some mild food reactions like a runny nose. Nothing too severe. and I was, really finding my stride as a bodybuilder. right before the shot, I was squatting £500, deadlifting £500, benching 350. I had a 51 inch box jump. I was really a high level athlete, and it was the my escape. It was what I did, to deal with all of the Neurological changes from Covid and everything that I was dealing with. But anyway, I switched jobs and after two months of being there, they were, somehow made aware that I didn't get the vaccine because I guess they if my memory serves me right.

Michael Locke (00:05:09) - they didn't ask it when I was interviewed. They just assumed that I got it. But when I told them that I hadn't, one of the older, employees there said they weren't. He wasn't comfortable working in the same office as me if I didn't get it. So they said after being two months employed there, they say to me, Michael, we're either going to let you go or you're going to get the vaccine. And given that I had just been in a year of hell in the lockdowns and truly did not want to return to that, I had to make a choice. And that choice, I thought, was be sick for a day, and then that would be it. Or lose the job and lose the stability that this job was giving me, because at that point, the only stability I had was the gym and that job. It was 8 or 9 hours a day of the job, three hours a day at the gym. and that was my life. So I got the shot.

Michael Locke (00:05:54) - Johnson Johnson June 3rd, 2021. Within the shot went into my left shoulder and within 90s there was this. All I can describe it. Not medically, of course, is as an eruption up the left side of my body.

Ann Forti (00:06:07) - It was immediate.

Michael Locke (00:06:09) - And within about 90s. Yeah. you know, they hold you there for 15 minutes to make sure you don't have an anaphylactic reaction. but boy, did I have a reaction. My vision blurred. I was this this huge gasp coming. I came out, I was pins and needles and lightning bolts all around the body, but eventually it passed. And that night I went to the gym and everything was normal. And then I got sick for a day, and then I thought that was it. But then over the next weeks and months, things began to change. But because there was, it wasn't an immediate full on decline. I didn't realize it was the vaccine until until years later. believe it or not. But over those weeks and months, I started to lose the ability to get a muscle pump.

Michael Locke (00:06:57) - When you're a bodybuilder or just any athlete, when you work out and blood gets to your muscles, it pumps up. Think Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? I lost, I lost the ability to get a muscle pump. after about ten months, I lost the ability to sweat at all. Food reactions. Numbness. Tingling. Weakness. the panic episodes far exceeded anything that I'd experienced with Covid. The virus itself. With just Covid, I began to disassociate. even in the first few minutes of this conversation, I was I was seeing two of you. Because when I sit for too long or when I'm stationary for too long, the blood pools, my fingernails, including right now, started to turn purple, along with the, inability to sweat. And at this point, going into late 21, early 2022, I had absolutely no idea what was happening. I went to cardiology and rheumatology and three E.R. visits. Eventually, I made my way to neurology and orthopedic doctors, and I had scan after scan after scan after blood test, after blood test, after blood test.

Michael Locke (00:08:02) - And not a single person could suggest. Not a single doctor could suggest to me what was wrong, and I, I was I was losing it. I really was losing it because I couldn't work out anymore was when I tried to the the response, the rebound was so terrible that I couldn't believe it. I couldn't eat anything without having a reaction. I tried high carb, low carb, keto junk food, healthy food, fasting. I seem to be reacting to water eventually. and I couldn't figure out what in the world is happening. And this was at a very pivotal point in my life. I had just graduated college finally, a few months after the after the vaccine, I actually did a bodybuilding show because the damage wasn't quite set in yet. And I say prepared for that bodybuilding show. I felt so terrible and I just assumed it's got to be because of the bodybuilding show. But no, it was because my nerves were slowly destroying themselves. about a year into it, I had since moved out of my parents house.

Michael Locke (00:09:00) - After finishing college, I moved to Florida from Connecticut, and eventually I had to, call it. And I had to move back in with my folks where I'm still living right now as a almost 25 year old. But the on the medical side, things continue to progress or decline, I should say, with the nerve damage and the pain and the tingling and everything else I noticed. And I'm sure we can include videos or pictures of what I looked like as a bodybuilder before the shot. I was built like a tank. I was sturdy, I could feel, you know, I could tell where my hands were in space and I could lift weights. And I felt sturdy. But I noticed over the course of months and years I started to become very bendy. You know, like my thumb began to be able to touch my wrist and I could do a full split as a as a full grown man. And it wasn't just my joints and my ligaments that were becoming bendy like an Ehlers-Danlos type of problem, as we can get into later on.

Michael Locke (00:09:52) - It was my it's the veins and it's the, it's just all of the connective tissue just seemed to be destroying itself. I'm sure we'll get into this a bit later. but what I've learned is that people who have a, whether it's a genetic predisposition or not, when someone's exposed to a toxin or some kind of significant immune event, say, a vaccine, their, an editors like issue or a connective tissue hypermobility problem can be triggered. And that seems to be what's happened for me. So in addition to the nerves being destroyed and having a bunch of blood vessel problems, everything is just bendy. Now I'm like a rubber band. So that's where everything started out.

Ann Forti (00:10:37) - So as you've progressed and so I'm sure your story is similar to you'd go to a doctor and they tell you everything was fine. And I mean, how did how? Share with us how you got to find answers.

Michael Locke (00:10:55) - Before I found out and realized that it was the vaccine. I had gone to about 30 different doctors. And that's not an exaggeration.

Michael Locke (00:11:02) - That's 330, right? And every almost every specialty there was. And not a single doctor suggested that it was the vaccine. There were there were three types of doctors. There was the the doctor who was honest and said they didn't know there was the type of doctor who, were. It was just kind of a transitional step and, referred me to a specialist or just gave me some nothing diagnosis like Raynaud's syndrome or some, some kind of or some kind of throwaway, diagnosis that didn't really do anything. And then there was the most common, which were the dismissals, the people who said that it was anxiety. It's depression. It's in your head. You need to talk to a psychologist and a therapist and. that's that's the theme. It's, if you have something that they cannot explain, instead of acknowledging that they don't want, instead of acknowledging that they don't have the answer. They put the diagnosis code in their computer system as anxiety so that they can just they can close off that particular patient, and they can call it a day.

Michael Locke (00:12:03) - If you're a primary care doctor and you're seeing ten patients or 12 patients a day, you don't want to put in the time because it's not cost efficient. It doesn't help you if you have 40 patients or 50 patients in a week and you've got like five difficult patients just not really going to pay attention to them, you're going to pay attention to the other 90% that are routine and run of the mill. So the common theme was, we don't know, your tests are normal. we don't know what to do. And we're sending you home, whether it's the emergency room or just a regular doctor's visit, because they don't know. And I still to this day hope that it's Negligence and lack of training. Instead of just utter. Instead of malice. I would, I would imagine that they just don't know the answers. But at this point, I think it's that they don't want to know.

Ann Forti (00:12:52) - Yeah, well, at this point, I think early on and I talk about this often, you know, within the vaccine injured community or when I'm speaking with people, you know, public officials is that the NIH knew in January of 2021 that there were thousands of injuries taking place.

Ann Forti (00:13:09) - They were dressing, was flown out to the NIH, and these people were promised, hey, we're going to help you, and we're going to let the public know what was happening, that this is happening. And instead they silence these people and they never told anybody. So the heads of these had had we had transparent information, had the information been able to be put out there and medical doctors and institutions were made aware, hey, if you're seeing this, this could be from the vaccine, like if that could have gone out early on. Not so many people. Number one, no one received proper informed consent because no. You know, here they knew about it and what they weren't telling anybody about it. And then in addition, so many people have just been left languishing because our top health agencies have not been honest with medical institutions saying, hey, watch out for this. And so who gets who suffers? You and all the other people like you. So it's just it's just very, just very discouraging.

Michael Locke (00:14:15) - I do think I do think I do think it's intentional in some cases, because once I figured out it was the vaccine, just within the past really year or so, once I started positioning the conversation to doctors around, it was the vaccine. Several of them, doctors, pharmacists have told me that if they spoke out negatively against the vaccine, they would be at risk of losing their position.

Ann Forti (00:14:37) - So you're right. You're right. You're absolutely right.

Michael Locke (00:14:40) - Don't do no, don't ask, don't tell.

Ann Forti (00:14:42) - So. So then where did you find yourself? How did you how did you come to figure out this is what it is? This is from the vaccine.

Michael Locke (00:14:51) - I realized at some point in 2022 and 2023 that I had some serious compressions going on. And that's a very common thing with, it seems to be a common thing with people with these connective tissue and hypermobility problems, in my case, induced by the vaccine. So I got several ultrasounds, and the only, the only compression that I could find was right here in my, between the first rib and the collarbone.

Michael Locke (00:15:18) - a thoracic outlet syndrome is one of these many compression syndromes. So I saw a vascular surgeon. we spoke about it, whether surgery would be applicable, did physical therapy, and nothing abated. So at this point, I had literally nothing else to go on. So the surgeon said, we can just do a do a surgery and remove the rib. yes. And while I wasn't wrong about the thoracic outlet syndrome, my my whole left arm would turn would turn purple and red in the morning because of the lack of proper, you know, blood flow back to back through the venous system. I wasn't wrong about that. It just was woefully, incomplete. It was. There's many other things going on. But anyway, I got the surgery, I got the rib removed. Virtually no improvement. And then I look back at all the blood work and everything that I've done in the past two and a half years. And I realize I realize two things. One, that my platelets have been low constantly this entire time.

Michael Locke (00:16:14) - That's the pretty much the only red flag that's been that's come up in all of the blood work consistently. And two, it started not with the bodybuilding competition where I started to decline, which at that point I thought that it was like a thoracic outlet syndrome was a bodybuilding injury. And I had just compressed a nerve or something. but right before the bodybuilding competition, I got the vaccine and my perspective changed, and I realized, wait a minute, people who got the Johnson Johnson vaccine, some of them got a blood clotting disorder that lowered their platelets, and Johnson Johnson was called off, was recalled from the market for giving people Vitt vaccine induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia. And the short version is I eventually got diagnosed with Vitt because I met nearly all the criteria for it.

Ann Forti (00:17:02) - Did you have the Johnson and Johnson?

Michael Locke (00:17:04) - That was the one I got. Yeah.

Ann Forti (00:17:05) - Okay.

Michael Locke (00:17:06) - And some people would say, yeah, the viral vector virus, the adenovirus vector viruses are a vector vaccines. And like AstraZeneca and Johnson Johnson and then the mRNA shots like Moderna and Pfizer and, you know, the mRNA shots were purportedly the safer ones.

Michael Locke (00:17:22) - But no, they're not.

Ann Forti (00:17:23) - No. They're there. I mean, no matter what vaccine people received, there are injuries across the board.

Michael Locke (00:17:31) - So I got the single shot and that was enough to to devastate everything. But in March of 2024 is when I really realized it. Wow. And yeah, it took me two and a half years and and in hindsight, I kicked myself. But it wasn't obvious because you don't know until you know.

Ann Forti (00:17:47) - Yeah. And you didn't. And nobody was helping you along the way.

Michael Locke (00:17:50) - Even to this day, when you search in, when you search, you know your symptoms on Google. You know it'll tell you you have cancer, heart disease. It never says vaccine injury because you have to go looking for it on another browser, DuckDuckGo or brave or you can't. You couldn't find anything on Twitter at the time because it wasn't wasn't, Facebook suppressed it until Trump won the election. Oh, yeah. YouTube. I've been struck many times on the channel. So it was until you, until you had until you figured it out yourself and you had the epiphany.

Michael Locke (00:18:19) - And I'll never forget that moment of the epiphany. you just don't know.

Ann Forti (00:18:26) - So then, so you realize, hey, I think this is the vaccine. I mean, did you just. Were you able to connect with other people? Like, I don't know how you. I don't know how you connected with react 19 or other people who are injured. How did you come to find like, oh, there's other people like me, and maybe I should try this and maybe I should try this.

Michael Locke (00:18:46) - At this point, the doctors, my parents, other people just thought I was nuts because I had been I've been chasing it is I've been chasing a ghost. And you know, the term gaslighting comes up constantly because that's what we were. That's what we are. I've been chasing a ghost for two and a half years, but now that I finally knew where to look, FLQ react 19. All these recommendations, it was very easy to find once I knew what what to look for.

Ann Forti (00:19:09) - Okay.

Michael Locke (00:19:10) - And then it was information overload.

Michael Locke (00:19:13) - So all these terms from natto kinase to low dose naltrexone to blood apheresis to, just everything under the sun. And I even to this day, I still have 200 freaking supplements. I'm like, in my cabinet, So I reached out to Brianne and I reached out to FLQ. I found a long Covid doctor near me. I got a bunch of Covid specific blood markers, which some of which came back abnormal. The Covid spike, antibody from the vaccine, not the virus, was, you know, higher than the test goes. because the antibody count was still so high. I did the micro clot testing. It was a three and a half out of four showing that I still had quite a bit of, so so I kept going. I was able to finally stop seeing the useless mainstream allopathic doctors and see some of these either Covid functional doctors or Covid vaccines, specializing people like Jordan Von in in Alabama. So at this point, I had gotten another job separate from the one who fired who who, I was at before.

Michael Locke (00:20:17) - I didn't mention, a month after I got the vaccine, I got fired from that job. And the reason for the firing was, poor performance, and the reason for the poor performance was right. I didn't know it at the time, but now I realize the reason things fell off were because, you know, it's kind of hard to think when you have blood clotting. so I had another job at this point. Been there for about a year, year and a half. And, I had a seizure episode at work, and I just had to leave. So I went on medical leave, and during that medical leave, I went to California for all of these expensive fancy treatments. The IBU, the blood apheresis, the bot, the photo bio modulation, all of these IVs, peptides, almost its stem cells. But I decided not to. I went to I did triple therapy. I did all of these different supplements. I tried, antibiotics, which was very helpful for a different reason.

Michael Locke (00:21:12) - And I just kept trying different things that were centered around Covid. I eventually, tried to get a diagnosis of Vitt, the vaccine induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia. I got a diagnosis for that because even three years later, I still had the antibody. I had the antibody. In order to get vit. You have to have the low platelets. You have to have have the vaccine. You have to have a clot, which I did in my left arm. and I have to have the antibody and I had the antibody. I actually asked the Covid doctor I won't name her because I don't want to give her the. I don't want to give her more business. She wasn't. She wasn't good. I, I said to her, I want to get this blood test done. And then she did it and it came back positive. And it's I quickly realized that even the Covid doctors, while much more well-intentioned than than the than the allopathic doctors, they don't know. They're still learning with their patients, which is which is fine, but they don't have the answers either.

Michael Locke (00:22:04) - But, for all of last year, it was really just trying to figure out what the hell was going on. So last year, what I learned, if you don't mind if I go into diagnoses.

Ann Forti (00:22:14) - Oh, yeah. No. Please do.

Michael Locke (00:22:17) - I figured out that I had clotting, both the micro clotting and larger clotting plotting from the from the vet, the low platelets and whatnot. I had mentioned earlier on in our, in our interview that I lost the ability to sweat and that my nerves just stopped working. So I saw a few neurologists formally got diagnosed with small fiber neuropathy, positive skin biopsy positive nerve degeneration antibodies. Fgfr three was the particular antibody. spent four months on the phone battling with insurance to get IVIg because that was the only real, I guess, approved successful treatment for it, but insurance denied it every step of the way. So still battling with them seven months later. we what else did I do? I wrote some things down. So we have the, obviously I have I know I didn't mention it, but I had the pots and the dysautonomia, blood pooling in the feet, the extreme constipation and motility problems, extreme food reactions everywhere, the constant fight or flight issues.

Michael Locke (00:23:20) - I realize that MCAS and the histamine was a very large part of it. So when I take histamine blockers and ketoprofen and and Cromwell and sodium, those really help a lot. it's just been a constant whirlwind of, of learning. And it seems like I know more than a lot of the doctors at this point.

Ann Forti (00:23:40) - And so many of the vaccine injured.

Michael Locke (00:23:43) - And oh, and to answer your question, I'm sorry, in terms of how I got connected with people, I once I found FLQ react 19 and then was on medical leave. I had a lot of time. So I went on Facebook and then YouTube and started posting. And I've spoken with like literally like on the phone, spoken with hundreds of people from Israel, from Australia, Mexico, Canada, the United States, Germany, Britain, France. I've talked to people all over and I realized they're all over. There are so many of us who are in their 20s, teens, 30s, 40s, young people who either have just had kids and now they're disabled and can't take care of them without their significant other or young people like myself, who I don't know if I'm ever going to be able to get married and have a kid because they are just disabled.

Michael Locke (00:24:25) - They are functionally disabled. They sound normal. They look normal. There's nothing abnormal about me. If you saw me on the street, you'd say he's a normal guy, but and most of the time my mental faculties aren't too inhibited at this point. But physically, I'm. I'm a shell of a man. I went from being able to squat £500 to having a hard time walking around the block. So. Realizing that I wasn't alone in this was extremely gratifying. It was the probably the sole silver lining, and it showed me not only am I not nuts, this truly is a a not a theory, a conspiracy to suppress information. Because even when I tried to post my story on YouTube, I've since gotten two strikes just for posting information about my own, my own journey. So it's been an enlightening experience.

Ann Forti (00:25:18) - So have you found anything that has worked for you? What? Through all of this, because you're very clear in any video that you put out and I'm actually going to link, I'm going to link in the show notes to your video that you it's on Rumble because, YouTube took it down.

Ann Forti (00:25:37) - So I'm going to link to that video, where you list, about a month ago, you listed all these things that were really giving you help and you had so many resources there. So if anybody's listening, just know that that'll be linked in the show notes. But have you what have you found that is helpful? And again, what I wanted to say at the beginning here was that you are trying to guard against any kind of grifting like you are not in this. You're not trying to make money, you're not trying to, you know, promote anything. You're just you're, as I said at the beginning, you just want to help. You want to put information out there because you desperately want to be helped and to help other people. So I don't know if you could just share the things that you that have been beneficial.

Michael Locke (00:26:22) - I'm overdue to make another video. And the only the thing that I suggested in that in that video at a rumble that you're mentioning. It did it did help.

Michael Locke (00:26:30) - But obviously it's not going to be. Let me address grifters for a moment. Okay. The vaccine recovery space has become an industry, which really sickens me. But it has it's become an industry. There are people who are. I won't name any unless you want me to. there are some people. Yeah. there are some people in this space who promote certain supplements and detox protocols that are so generic and untested and are not nearly effective for what people are dealing with, but they continue to make a lot of money from it. So it bothers me because I would spend every penny I have and go into debt. I'd sell myself into servitude to get, to be recovered. but I can't do it because I don't think that thing exists. but yet people just continue to sell things. So no, it's not about money for me. I've spent probably 60 grand foregone hundreds of thousands of dollars in earned income. but the financials don't really matter. You realize very quickly that money means nothing when you don't have your health and you can't feel music anymore.

Michael Locke (00:27:31) - Everything is just, empty. So in terms of that video, I'd mentioned some things that had helped me, but it's a month and a half old, and now I think I, I think I know what's going on at this point, and that's hopefully what I can share for the next few minutes in this video.

Ann Forti (00:27:44) - Yes, please.

Michael Locke (00:27:46) - From what I understand. From what I understand, and I hinted at this a little bit in that video with a lot of notes in the description talking about things like Sirs, chronic inflammatory response syndrome. My understanding is that when you have this acute insult, whether it's Covid or more problematically, the vaccine, when there's just this burden of bio toxins that the body can't recover from or deal with. It just goes into shutdown mode, cell danger mode, and until it's taken out of it, it's just going to continue to eat itself. So I hinted at the editor's and Ehlers-Danlos issues with the hypermobility and connective tissue problems.

Ann Forti (00:28:27) - So is that for anybody who doesn't know what that is? That's what it is.

Ann Forti (00:28:30) - What what what exactly is.

Michael Locke (00:28:32) - Sorry, I'm I'm both thinking as. I'm thinking as I'm talking. Right. essentially what the vaccine has done to people, myself included, is it's a runaway immune response that we can't recover from and come back from people like my parents got 2 or 3 or four shots, and they're fine. Presumably they mounted an adequate immune response for people like me who are injured. They couldn't mount a good enough immune response, and now their cells are just in constant danger mode. Okay. They're not like they were before. They're not dead. They're somewhere in between. So the coach that I'm working with right now, what we're trying to do is calm everything down. The the MCAS, the the autonomia, the immune responses and the. The nerve. The nerve pain and nerve damage and so on. So what I discussed in that last video was everything and anything that I had found in an attempt to kind of calm and modulate the response. So I had mentioned, for example, this this frequency machine, this PMF device.

Ann Forti (00:29:28) - Yes, you were very encouraged by that.

Michael Locke (00:29:31) - And it helped helped and has and is helping dramatically. I just don't think it's nearly enough to fix it. Some people I know a woman who originally suggested it to me, she recovered all of her problems. She lost her period, got it back. She had a stroke recovered from the stroke. Wow. Lost the ability to sweat. Can sweat again. She was able to recover from it.

Ann Forti (00:29:51) - And specifically, that was called what P PMF.

Michael Locke (00:29:55) - It's a PMF terahertz frequency machine. It's when people talk about grounding, for example, it's kind of like that, except it it's doing it through a machine and a much more powerful rate.

Ann Forti (00:30:07) - Now, do you do you believe enough in that treatment that you would say it's worth trying.

Michael Locke (00:30:14) - I would, but I need to be very clear. It's not adequate. And by by itself, I use it every day. I've used it almost every day for the past. Coming on three months now. And it's helped me quite a bit.

Ann Forti (00:30:26) - But you talked about how you came out and you could see and your skin was clear and you'd lost some weight, and.

Michael Locke (00:30:33) - And it was and it wasn't. Is phenomenal. It's just not it's not sufficient. I think that I think what people need to understand, what I should have understood, what I wish I understood, say, nine months ago, is that there's not a single pill. You're going to take a single machine or an expensive $15,000 getaway to California like I took, last year. And that's going to make you better. It's not whether it's these clinics in Tennessee who remain nameless, or California who will remain nameless, or New York who will remain nameless. it's an industry. They're trying to sell you a product and kind of feed on your hope, but they're not actually going to make you better because very seldomly to someone leave. Leave a clinic like that and get better. But what I've been trying to do is find the root cause of it, and I think it's all at the cell level.

Michael Locke (00:31:18) - So what I mentioned in that video was, I think we need to address it at the smallest level possible via things like frequency, which can get things into and out of the cell, help fix the cell membrane and whatnot. I would suggest people look into Sirs, the chronic inflammatory response syndrome. these protocols are made by people much more knowledgeable and well-read than I am. I'm just following the protocols. What I had mentioned it towards the tail end of that video was, things like Shoemaker, the Shoemaker protocol and all of the blood work that people can get, whether it's the functional testing like an Oates test or a GI map, or you can test for mycotoxins and co-infections. Like a lot of people like myself, they've got Bartonella or tick borne illnesses like Lyme. They've got mold, mold exposure, and by treating some of the underlying infections that they already had previous to the vaccine, they can reduce their total toxin burden and make it easier on their immune system to, to recover from that.

Ann Forti (00:32:18) - So you would say that it is helpful to get some of this testing done.

Ann Forti (00:32:24) - You know, the oats, the the gut, you know, all you would say. Yes. That is a place to get to to maybe spend some resources on.

Michael Locke (00:32:36) - What I would say. Yes. I think perhaps what I should do is. Breaking the fourth wall for a moment. we might have to edit some of this because I realized some of these answers are scattered. But, perhaps it would be useful if I shared what I did in the past two months and why I feel like I kind of know what I'm doing now. Okay. I kind of drift in and out of thinking I know what I'm doing because there's so much to this. But what I've done in the past three months is this I ended up getting some of these products that I found on Facebook, like the PMF device, the P90 machine, some of these binders, the things that I mentioned in that video, like the life wave patches and injectable peptides that have been really, really helpful. I've been controlling the MCAS to a much better degree with things like the caramel and sodium ketoprofen, H1 and H2 blockers.

Michael Locke (00:33:27) - quercetin is a is one of the peptides that's been really useful for the mast cells in terms of the testing. What all of the doctors are doing is they're giving you a standard CPC or a metabolic panel, but none of that's relevant. Even inflammatory markers like CRP. It's useless for this. what people I think and what I have done. Just saying what I've done. I'm no doctor. Then again, if I was, I probably wouldn't be giving good advice. what I've the testing that I've been doing is the otes test, the GI map, the mycotoxins, and then the surface markers, the and all that's in the video description. And it's out of date. It's just I've been updating things as I go along. the service markers like the MMP, nine msh, VEGF a lot of the things that even people, even Covid doctors like Bruce Patterson have on their Covid immune subset panel. What I and that's really the only testing that's needed. And then it's taking the cells out of the danger response.

Michael Locke (00:34:22) - And that's what I'm trying very much to do with, again, the mast cell stabilizers, the low histamine diet, a lot of these neuro inflammatory controllers, even the tiny things that people on Facebook talk about, like the nicotine patches, those help a lot. eating just carnivore or just meat and fruit helps a lot. I'm still been trying to get IVIg approved, and I'm doing a plasma for SS session tomorrow for the first time, so I'm somewhat optimistic.

Ann Forti (00:34:52) - Is that is that what PMF is?

Michael Locke (00:34:56) - No. Very different.

Ann Forti (00:34:57) - Okay. So what is what is what you're doing tomorrow?

Michael Locke (00:35:00) - There is all these acronyms, they're like government agencies. There's all these acronyms, plasmapheresis. And I realize I'm talking at a like I said, I'm kind of thinking as I'm going, but. Right. It's been a when I say all this out loud, which I really haven't done very much, I realize just how much info I've gathered and how, just reciting it back is just it's a lot. PMF is, is I believe it's what is a pulsed electromagnetic.

Michael Locke (00:35:28) - It's a pulse electromagnetic field, and it's a type of frequency.

Ann Forti (00:35:32) - Oh, I'm sorry, I, I meant is IVIg the same as flex or.

Michael Locke (00:35:36) - Oh yeah. No.

Ann Forti (00:35:38) - Flex. Flex. Yes. Flex. What. What's the difference between Plex. So as Plex what you're doing versus IVIg. Sorry.

Michael Locke (00:35:46) - IVIg most people probably know what it is. It's it's other people's plasma and you're getting it infused into you. Plex is plasmapheresis where you're having your antibodies infused out or taken out of you, and they just infuse you with, like, an albumin solution. So IVIg is you're getting other people's stuff and Plex is you're removing your own. And by removing and by removing these antibodies, my hope is that I'll be able to give my body the time to recover. It's only taken me, you know, six months to get it approved. so.

Ann Forti (00:36:16) - Do you have you have insurance?

Michael Locke (00:36:19) - Yeah. Oh, my God. If I didn't, I would be in a I could probably have afforded everything.

Michael Locke (00:36:24) - It's just. It would have cost me even more.

Ann Forti (00:36:27) - Yeah. No. 60,000 people who don't have the 60.

Michael Locke (00:36:30) - The 60,000 was the non non insurance covered costs. I was in a position I was a financial advisor and I made it. And I saved a decent amount before I had the seizure and had to leave work. But yeah, it's been a massive financial burden. Massive financial burden. But.

Ann Forti (00:36:49) - So what is it that you're trying tomorrow then?

Michael Locke (00:36:51) - It's the. That's the plex. The plasmapheresis.

Ann Forti (00:36:54) - Oh it.

Michael Locke (00:36:54) - Is. Yeah, yeah, it just took six months to get approved by insurance. All right. Because I was on the phone battling with them for so long.

Ann Forti (00:37:00) - Well, it'll be interesting to see how that turns out. Do you know anybody who's tried that?

Michael Locke (00:37:05) - Quite a few. I have a on my Facebook messages and in my text messages. I have a whole list of friends at this point who are in the same position and who have done so many things. I I'm not unique.

Michael Locke (00:37:17) - There are many Michael locks all.

Ann Forti (00:37:19) - Around, unfortunately.

Michael Locke (00:37:22) - So they've done Ivy League plex. Brianna's pretty public about it. she does IVIg quite a bit. she's done it since the beginning. So,

Ann Forti (00:37:32) - I know one concern with IVIg is if you're getting someone's plasma who had the vaccine, and there may be a spike in there, and then because she, she talks about, you know, getting a bad batch and how sometimes you can get a bad batch and feel awful. And I, I don't know any of the science behind that, but, I could see potentially why what you're doing with the, with the Plex plaques would be. Yeah, I don't know.

Michael Locke (00:38:00) - You're thinking exactly like I did. Yeah. I, I specifically went with Plex first because I didn't want to get a batch where someone was injected with the vaccine, and I'm getting more of that into me. Yeah. I don't know if they're filters when they. When they make the IVIg batches. I don't know if they're small enough to filter out the spike.

Michael Locke (00:38:18) - I have no idea.

Ann Forti (00:38:19) - I wonder if they're even testing it.

Michael Locke (00:38:20) - I doubt it, no, because they're from their view. They're probably not. I once tried to donate plasma, and they, They don't ask you about the vaccine. Yeah, not. They ask. Have you ever, you know, had have you ever lived a certain lifestyle? Have you ever done drugs, have you ever had cancer and so on. have you ever had Aids? they don't ask about Covid vaccines, right? Even though the clinical data clearly shows that the spike remains in your body for years and years and years. Yale just came out with the study talking about how, the spike persists in the blood for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of days after getting the shot. There was no real upper limit to how long it stays in the body, and that's why there's such, such an issue.

Ann Forti (00:39:03) - I don't understand. I mean, looking back, you know that, oh, we're going to give this the whole world, this, this new technology that we've never used before.

Ann Forti (00:39:12) - And, I mean, it's just crazy. But why? They thought it was just going to stay in the arm like that makes absolutely zero sense. I mean, I don't know, like, even not having a science background, you'd be like, how how does that work? And obviously I've talked to so many people and I'm sure you have two who are vaccine injured who are still producing spike, you know, 2 or 3 years to, to this day since they had the vaccine.

Michael Locke (00:39:36) - I think it goes back. I've never I'm a Republican. I voted for Trump twice. I think the government's pretty bad at everything. I think, however, I thought I didn't realize that extended to it one being malicious and two, I didn't realize it extended to the medical field. I didn't mask in 2020, I didn't. I got kicked out of my gym for not wearing a mask. I mean, you tried doing sprints and wearing a mask. You can't do it. I thought that the lockdowns were stupid.

Michael Locke (00:40:03) - I thought that the vaccines at the time were were pointless for someone my age. I didn't think they were dangerous. And I think and I think assuming that it was just going to be a harmless, just a harmless medical procedure. that was where we were very, very, very wrong. But in terms of what I'm doing now, my plan and I'm happy to. I write everything on word documents, so I'm happy to just link it if you wanted to include it.

Ann Forti (00:40:27) - Oh yes, please.

Michael Locke (00:40:29) - It's really not medical advice. It's just what I'm doing now. It's just like.

Ann Forti (00:40:32) - Medical advice here.

Michael Locke (00:40:33) - It's just like. Just like my full, like, list of of stuff I got, like, my full, my daily protocol, like, all the testing, it's most of this stuff in this paper that I just flashed is just on the video finding information. That's been the hard part. It's all out there. You just don't know. No, the answer could be flashing right in front of you, and you wouldn't know that it's the answer because there's all this crap.

Michael Locke (00:40:58) - there's just so much information out there. some people are talking about the supplements. Some people are talking about nervous system retraining. Some people are talking about doing pharmaceuticals like IVIg. There's just so much information, and you drive yourself literally nuts. I've almost killed myself twice. once in 22 and once in 24. Like, was just like, like one, one little finger motion away, and you just. It just becomes too much. but what.

Ann Forti (00:41:26) - What is kept you from doing that?

Michael Locke (00:41:32) - Rage. I'm too. I'm too pissed off to die. That's, I know that's corny, but.

Ann Forti (00:41:39) - Yeah, well, I mean, if if if it works and if you can use it for good.

Michael Locke (00:41:44) - What I've what I've legitimately told myself many, many days, many nights is you can always do it tomorrow, and that's a hard thing to hear. But it's it's true because you always can. And, I when I go on my very limited walks and when I am, I've replaced my walking with driving.

Michael Locke (00:42:07) - So I'll just drive around for three hours at a time. what I keep fantasizing about this dream I have in my head is being able to return to the gym and feel the things that I used to feel, to be able to feel the music, to be able to, you know, regain my sense of smell, to be able to be outside and actually feel the presences around me. it's a it's a dream. In addition to the rage that's keeping me going to return to the self that I once was. And it's it's hard because you really don't know if you're ever going to get back there. You see stories on Reddit and Facebook and YouTube about people who have recovered, and it's nice to see people recover, but it gives you some. It feels like false hope at times because some days is anyone who's dealing with this will tell you you feel almost kind of kind of normal. And then the then the next day or the next hour, you're just right back into the into the trash dump.

Michael Locke (00:43:03) - It's it's been the ultimate, the the ultimate challenge when you literally can't trust your own perceptions, and you, the whole world is telling you you're nuts. And the doctors and your family are. They don't believe you. yeah. It's it's been the ultimate challenge. I would I would rather and this is by no means making a lot of people who have to deal with this. I would give I would give two legs to be done with, to be to be, rid of this, it's, you feel like less of a of a person. And speaking as a man, you feel, you know, men and women have their own challenges with this. As a man, you feel as though your primary Function is just gone because you don't have the ability to to provide your you just feel useless. You can't really do anything. You're dependent on other people.

Michael Locke (00:44:08) - I was valedictorian in high school, you know, like perfect math SAT score. I've always been a Type-A personality, so to not be able to figure out this problem, it's just been it's been it's been agonizing. It's been absolutely agonizing to not know what the what the solution is. It just sucks. That's that's the best way of saying it.

Ann Forti (00:44:29) - So for those like you, where would you recommend to for people to go to? I just be heard to be encouraged to just have fellowship with, I mean, are there are you in Facebook groups? I know react 19 has a group. what is your recommendation there, or what have you found to be helpful.

Michael Locke (00:44:51) - Specifically for vaccines? Stay off of Reddit. Stay off of YouTube. Rumble is useful. Facebook has been the best, best source, particularly the individual groups and the people.

Ann Forti (00:45:03) - Okay, well, that's got to be recent because we know that, you know, back in 21, 22, you know, Mark Zuckerberg went in and dissembled all the all the groups and people were committing suicide.

Ann Forti (00:45:16) - So they must be allowing them. Now.

Michael Locke (00:45:19) - There seems to be have been a change at some point last mid last year. I've heard that from a few people. Okay. And I wasn't on the Facebook groups in 21 and 22 because I didn't know that it was the vaccine back then.

Speaker 3 (00:45:28) - Right, right.

Michael Locke (00:45:29) - But I, I've most of the my internet friends at this point. They're my at this point they're not even internet friends. They're just my friends, who I've met have been on Facebook or people who have commented on the YouTube channel. Then we ended up having a four hour conversation on the phone. So in terms of finding people, it would be Facebook and some of the platforms. X is another excellent one to meet.

Ann Forti (00:45:50) - Yeah, there's lots of people on X that are, you know, that have groups and you know, trying to encourage one another.

Michael Locke (00:45:57) - In terms of what to do. The first thing would to do if I were you, if I were telling myself what to do four years ago, what I would first say is get out of crisis mode.

Michael Locke (00:46:08) - Cut everything with histamine. Get on mast cell stabilizers and histamine blockers. Just get to a point of stopping if you're able to stop working or cut back. Do that. Just take off all of the additional stress because it's it's it's just going to continue. And until I going on medical leave when I had to last last year, by the way, the job fired me. I haven't, and I'll happily say this publicly. I have a an ongoing lawsuit now where I'm alleging medical discrimination, but obviously I can't give details. Right? but I was on medical leave and then they let me go. As a result of, I believe, allegedly as a result of that, going on medical.

Speaker 3 (00:46:50) - Leave.

Ann Forti (00:46:50) - And many people are in your same position. So I hope you guys can win.

Speaker 3 (00:46:55) - Because.

Ann Forti (00:46:56) - You're here because of the vaccine.

Michael Locke (00:46:57) - I pushed it as far as I could. I pushed it until the day before I had a seizure, at work. So in terms of the medical stuff, what I would say is what I have to tell myself to do is not overwhelm myself.

Michael Locke (00:47:10) - There is so much information out there. I think we're looking for the magic solution. I don't think it. I don't think a magic solution exists, but I think you should approach it methodically. Realize that your cells are in a danger response. Take the burden off of them. Look into the sirs and the thing that's in the footnotes of that last video, and just take it from there. I'm working with a coach now. I'm not really seeing many doctors at this point. I'm. That's not true. I'm seeing doctors to deal with some of the compressions. one thing that that's a big a really big hallmark in a lot of people is this vascular dysfunction. So perhaps you've heard of iliac vein compression, for example?

Ann Forti (00:47:50) - Oh, yeah. I was going to ask you about that.

Michael Locke (00:47:52) - And there's so much stuff we're leaving out in this interview. Of course. there's so many things that we're leaving out, but, the compressions are a big one. So the iliac vein, you know, I guess because the blood vessels are not able to hold themselves up as well and regulate blood pressure, and the nervous system is all wonky.

Michael Locke (00:48:12) - the compression that people have in their iliac vein, women particularly. But, you know, a lot of men now, too, it's just super compressed and pancaked against the artery, and then blood flow doesn't come back up to the heart. And then that causes a lot of, head pressure and, endurance problems and, and blood pooling in the legs.

Ann Forti (00:48:33) - Are those are there exercises people can do for that, or is that.

Speaker 3 (00:48:37) - You can wear Her.

Michael Locke (00:48:39) - As we speak. I'm wearing compression socks, so it helps the it squeezes the calves and kind of pushes it back up. But once it gets past a certain point, you either need to, you can always stent it, or you just put a you literally put a stent in the vein. You have a surgeon do it or you fix the I don't think you can fix the anatomy of it. At least what I'm told is that you can't do that. But if you fix the the overall nervous system.

Speaker 3 (00:49:03) - And right.

Michael Locke (00:49:04) - The tone of the of the veins and you deal with the mast cells and everything, you could make it better.

Michael Locke (00:49:12) - there's this this trinity of things you've got. Everyone knows about mixes. Everyone knows what pots and dysautonomia is. And then there's EDS this the hypermobility problems. The and they all, they all. It's the unholy, you know, the the holy Trinity. This is the unholy trinity. and they all feed into each other and they then they cause the GI problems and the food reactions and calming all those things down is what I would say. First, It's when, as I'm reciting this all in real time. Like I said before, I'm realizing just how much I've learned. And, you know, I can put it on one page like I'm looking at right now off screen, but there's just so much. So just doing something and doing it consistently is really the way to way to do it. And then you get into the more detailed things you can try things like Plex, you can see if you have vascular compressions, or other other compressions like Mals or Nutcracker syndrome and all these other problems that people have.

Michael Locke (00:50:07) - But it's a very individualized approach. I would I would recommend not going to your primary care doctor for this or even to specialists, so-called specialists. I also don't even necessarily think you should go to the the clinics that specialize in Covid and vaccines, because they don't know why they're in. They're going to charge you $5,000 for a program.

Speaker 3 (00:50:27) - That's what do.

Ann Forti (00:50:28) - You believe that about all of the clinics?

Michael Locke (00:50:31) - My experience has been when I go to some of these clinics. They do us and they do some very useful blood work. And then they'll put you on a fairly generic protocol, which is fine. There are some things that a lot of people can benefit from, but for the more detailed issues, I think you're better off just either. I'm able to say that because I've already seen these people. I've already seen I've already seen them and spent $700 an hour that they charge, because that's what they charge. but knowing what I know now, I don't think there's much use in, in seeing them.

Michael Locke (00:51:13) - what I'm trying to do now is dealing is deal with the sirs, the chronic inflammatory response syndrome stuff now and trying trying to get my nerves back by dealing with the antibodies and getting the histamine down and everything like that.

Ann Forti (00:51:23) - So then who who would you recommend somebody sees? I mean, I don't I don't mean I don't know that I mean specifically, but what type of doctor or.

Speaker 3 (00:51:36) - You know, if you're.

Michael Locke (00:51:37) - If you're someone who's really just getting into this and hasn't, been hyper obsessed, unfortunately, for the past year on this, I would say someone who an allergist who's very familiar with MCAS.

Speaker 3 (00:51:52) - Okay.

Michael Locke (00:51:53) - Because once you get the MCAS down, your life improves a lot.

Speaker 3 (00:51:56) - Okay.

Michael Locke (00:51:58) - Then you could see someone like, like Vaughn, who can at least get put on maybe an anticoagulants to deal with some of the blood pooling and the, and the micro clotting.

Ann Forti (00:52:08) - Yeah. He's been he's been there since the forefront. I mean, he's been I feel like he was one of the frontier doctors on this with the clotting.

Michael Locke (00:52:16) - They're they're just so overloaded that they never. This is a common thing between I've heard this from any of his patients. Like he just doesn't respond to his office, doesn't respond to messages because they're so over overloaded.

Ann Forti (00:52:26) - Overloaded?

Speaker 3 (00:52:26) - Yeah.

Michael Locke (00:52:27) - Even existing patients, they don't respond for like a month. so I would control the MCAS. See an allergist. If you have the money to see someone who's a, a long Covid or vaccine injury person. Like, like, you know, like Pierre Cary's clinic or FLQ doctors or someone that react 19 partners with you can do it. Just be aware that no one has the answer.

Speaker 3 (00:52:49) - The answer.

Michael Locke (00:52:50) - It's taking your body out of the out of the danger response zone, treating sirs, and then dealing with all the underlying co-infections. And that's what I tried to put in the description of that last video. I don't have the answers. Everything I'm doing is I'm just a guy who's trying to get his to get his body back. And I think I will eventually.

Michael Locke (00:53:09) - I don't know if I'll ever be the same, but I think between. What I'm doing now is the this sirs protocol, that I didn't come up with that it's been out for several years, you know, stuff for the cell membranes and dealing with things at the cell level. I'm doing the Plex and probably IVIg. I may end up having a surgery done to address one of the compressions that I found. that's compressing some pretty important nerves in my chest. And then the list of these other things, the PMF, these life wave patches, chlorine dioxide, nicotine, magnesium, glutathione, all these different supplements. It's a hodgepodge of different things. Everyone I've talked to, almost everyone I've talked to, has their own, graveyard. One girl calls it of supplements. They've got, you know, like 100 supplements in their cabinet, things that they've tried and they're just experimenting. And that's a lot of what this is. It's finding what works. I'm not going to say what works for you, because we all have the same machinery.

Michael Locke (00:54:10) - But it's.

Speaker 3 (00:54:12) - It's.

Ann Forti (00:54:12) - Can work differently. I mean, I've known people who, you know, swore by H bot in their life is back and other people are like, didn't help me one single bit.

Michael Locke (00:54:21) - I know the IBU, the electro corporeal blood, ozone, oxygenation, something like that. It's 1500 bucks a pop. I know people who did one round of that, and they're all better. I did for and felt nothing. I know people who did blood thinners and they're great. I know people who did. But like you said, I know it. It presents in so many different ways. Like, I still I still have most of the muscle mass. It just doesn't work. I know people, I know a girl who is a bodybuilder. She went from 135 to 110, and now she's a twig. And she. And she can't put on muscle now or keep any weight on. It's all, it's all. There's so many presentations to this, so I can't give a set answer on what to do other than find out what your issue is.

Michael Locke (00:55:07) - Do the relevant testing. That's all outlined in the description of that now outdated video, and figure out what your particular problems are. Take yourself out of the cell. Dangerous response. Consider getting a coach, perhaps.

Ann Forti (00:55:21) - Where do you find someone like that? I mean, do you have a I mean, people can just contact. Can people just contact you?

Speaker 3 (00:55:28) - Sure?

Ann Forti (00:55:28) - Yeah. And then you can give out information from there.

Michael Locke (00:55:32) - I have I won't give my guy's name just because I know he's not taking. No. With the degree of peop, with the number of people who would respond to me after seeing this video. He wouldn't be able to take on everyone. So I won't list his name. But someone on Facebook mentioned him to me. We spoke and now he's he's coaching me on it. What I can do is, send is perhaps you could link this in the, in the, the video when you post it. Right. Is a is a video of the person who trained him outlining exactly what the service protocol is that I'm following now.

Ann Forti (00:56:02) - Yeah. So anything that you have send to me and I'll make sure all that goes in the show notes. Sure. The people can just just check that out.

Michael Locke (00:56:13) - and with with the videos that I make on YouTube, I try to outline everything I'm going to say to make it organized and concise.

Speaker 3 (00:56:18) - Yes.

Michael Locke (00:56:19) - and I'll say it one last time, I realize I'm kind of spitballing as I'm talking now, but, I do think there are answers. I take it back. I know there are answers. And I what gets me is I know somewhere on the internet and somewhere in all of my notes is the answer. It's just sticking with it and having the, the, the clarity of mind to just force yourself to stick to it.

Speaker 3 (00:56:44) - Because if you.

Michael Locke (00:56:44) - Do.

Speaker 3 (00:56:45) - Go ahead.

Michael Locke (00:56:46) - Being patient is is the hard part, especially when you do something that you think is going to work and then you have a horrible food reaction like you just it just really discourages you and you feel like you're your own doctor.

Michael Locke (00:57:00) - The difference is, I said to a friend of mine, just two days ago, who's dealing with the same thing that I am? He says, the doctors are doing the same thing as us. It's just they're getting paid to do it, and we're paying them to do it. So we're just paying all these consultant doctors to to do what we're doing ourselves. Which is why I'm less, encouraging of people to like, hire their own, you know, Covid vaccine doctors.

Speaker 3 (00:57:28) - Right?

Ann Forti (00:57:30) - Has your family, turned around and seen that this is the vaccine? I mean, do you have any encouragement from family?

Michael Locke (00:57:40) - Now I do.

Speaker 3 (00:57:41) - Okay.

Michael Locke (00:57:41) - I don't know if it's it's hurt our relationship a lot. it's hurt all of my relationships. My best friends now are people who are injured because I talked to them on a daily or weekly basis. Other than the vaccine injury people, there's my, there's my immediate family, my mother and father and stepfather who I'm living with right now, and that's about it.

Michael Locke (00:58:06) - last year, once I finally figured out it was the vaccine and then showed them all of this stuff and all these other people who are dealing with it. They had their moment as well, and they've been pretty supportive. But in terms of figuring out answers, it's all still up to me because, you know, no one's you know, of course they're not going to be able to do the research for me.

Ann Forti (00:58:25) - Well, we can hope that maybe with some of the new people, you know, getting put into HHS, NIH, I know that these I know that the people who are being nominated for these positions and the FDA and the CDC, I know they're all aware of it. I know that they're all aware of it. And I know that they that they know that people like you need help. And so we can hope for that.

Michael Locke (00:58:50) - To the people who are still seeing their doctors or seeing doctors in general. Be blunt. Truly be blunt about it. If for the first 30 doctors that I saw prior to realizing that it was the vaccine, not a single one noted even posited that it was the vaccine.

Michael Locke (00:59:06) - And then after I figured out it was the vaccine and I led every single meeting with its the vaccine, then it got us going in the right direction. And you'll be surprised to you'll be surprised to hear what they'll tell you once you are the one to mention that it's the vaccine, right? I've got all this info about what tests you can ask for, whether it's this specific antibody testing.

Speaker 3 (00:59:29) - Okay.

Michael Locke (00:59:29) - Histamine, mast cell mediators, inflammatory markers, etc. but ultimately translating the diagnoses and the test results to practical application in terms of what you can take in terms of supplements and medications. That's kind of hard. But like I said, figure out get yourself out of the danger response zone. Mast cells, histamine. Calm yourself down. Then make a game plan. Stick with that. Deal with the sirs and then move forward with a plan. That would be what I would do.

Ann Forti (00:59:58) - So would you say that you are better? Now, I know that you're just you're you're moving in a positive direction.

Ann Forti (01:00:05) - Like from where you were two years ago or a year ago. do you feel that what you have been doing has made a difference?

Michael Locke (01:00:15) - There are some days. No, there are some hours, some half days when I feel like I could. Last summer, I was able to bench bench press like 275 and then after and then a month later, I was so weak that I was having difficulty walking around the block. It's so volatile. And and that's my stepfather said something to me and that bothered me. And but everyone who's dealt with this has heard the same thing from a family member or friend. He'll say, why are you okay now? But not then or why, why.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47) - Why are you.

Michael Locke (01:00:48) - Not okay now and then you're fine an hour later? I don't know, but sometimes things click and they work and sometimes they don't. Am I better overall? I think so, yes. Particularly now that I know what to avoid and what not to do. But do I have days where I'm, you know, telling myself you can always do it tomorrow? Absolutely.

Michael Locke (01:01:11) - but I'm more optimistic now that I am no longer chasing a ghost. I will never have a year. What I can tell you for a fact is I will never have a year as bad as 2022, which was the year where I was by myself in Florida. Horrible for dysautonomia and mold, by the way. when I was chasing a ghost and my my nerves were slowly destroying themselves and, the doctors were telling me it was in my head. There will never be. The bottom is in. There's never going to be a year that bad.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41) - and.

Ann Forti (01:01:41) - Unfortunately, so many people were told that that it was all in their head.

Michael Locke (01:01:47) - What really gets me and is if I had on June 5th, two days after the vaccine 2021, got an IVIg and Plex and did low histamine diets and controlled the mast cells, and maybe did steroids or some kind of strong pharmacological intervention immediately. I probably would still have my nerves and I'd be working, and I'd be a functional human being.

Ann Forti (01:02:12) - And the NIH knew that, and the NIH knew that.

Ann Forti (01:02:14) - They knew that this was happening, and they knew that that could help. And they kept that from the American people.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19) - Yes I did.

Ann Forti (01:02:20) - Yes.

Michael Locke (01:02:21) - I know people who. Again, there's a I haven't got another vaccine injured friend who saw the same doctor. The same neurologist who who diagnosed me with the small fiber neuropathy. He got vaccinated, got injured, and it was one Pfizer dose. He did IVIg and now he's mostly better. But he did it right away. Yeah, but I've been lagging almost yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43) - Yesterday.

Michael Locke (01:02:44) - Yesterday was 44 months.

Ann Forti (01:02:46) - You just want justice. It's that rage of just so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53) - I don't.

Michael Locke (01:02:53) - Think.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54) - Oh go ahead.

Michael Locke (01:02:54) - I think justice is a common theme is a lot of people. Maybe this isn't an appropriate forum for this, but a lot of people have come very close to God as a result of this. Some people have been moved away. what's really troubled me is knowing that everything about me can be everything about anyone can be changed with a virus. A vaccine, Raises a lot of, philosophical and existential questions.

Michael Locke (01:03:23) - That's been one of the hardest parts. Yeah. You were saying.

Ann Forti (01:03:27) - I was just going to ask you. And maybe that would be your answer. you know, what is something like that that you've taken away from this? Like, you know, four years ago, you didn't know, and today you're like, you know what? What is the most important thing that you've taken away from walking through the last four years?

Michael Locke (01:03:47) - Do you want the optimistic answer or the pessimistic answer?

Ann Forti (01:03:49) - Well, you can give both.

Michael Locke (01:03:52) - The pessimistic answer is that nothing really matters. And it's the pessimistic answer is that if I'd like to give the answer, but it's it's going to if someone's in a bad place, you're not going to want to hear it. So I'll just give the positive. I'll give both. the pessimistic answer is that the worst possible thing could happen to a person, and the world will just move right along as though it never happened. I've lost jobs and relationships and and all of these. These life experiences.

Michael Locke (01:04:22) - And you realize that people move on very quickly. They say no one's irreplaceable. And that's correct. But people will move on very quickly. The optimistic thing that I've learned is that there's a is I found a lot of support from Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for meaning. He was the Holocaust survivor, and what he talks about is the, the suffering that people endured in, in the camps and that between stimulus and response, there's a space, and that space is where you find your find your freedom. And knowing that however small that space is, because it feels like it's pretty much non-existent. Sometimes knowing that there's still a choice on how I can respond has shown me that, I still am free to some, to some degree. It's also shown me that all these things I thought were important money, status. They don't matter. They really don't. Last year when I was at when I was right about to go on medical leave, I was in the best financial position and work position and everything was great.

Michael Locke (01:05:35) - Other than the fact that I was slowly dying and you realize that nothing actually matters without health, because truly, if you can't, if your nerves aren't working and you can't perceive the person in front of you. yeah. You don't really care about money.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49) - Right?

Michael Locke (01:05:49) - Or anything else.

Ann Forti (01:05:52) - Right? Well, I mean, all all of what you've said, I'm sure many in your, position have felt. And I know that obviously Billy Joel, everyone at react 19 would want people to know, that you want to stay on the optimistic side. That help is available. You. You're here. Michael's here. He's going to help you. He can, he can. He can direct you. He can give you encouragement to places to go and to just to encourage that next day. But I, I know, I mean, I've lost his son. I mean, I buried a child and and I know. Yeah, I know what that feels like. Some of the things you talked about. But, finding finding the hope that's there.

Ann Forti (01:06:44) - And I just thank you, everyone. I would so encourage you all to follow Michael, keep up up to date on his journey, because obviously you can tell he wants to find answers. He wants to use, you know, the life, that passion that he has to find answers. And and I do like you said earlier, Michael, you you do think you'll find it. You know, it may take a while, but my guess is if I interviewed you a couple of years from now, I would bet that you're going to be further along. You're going to help people. And that's that's just it. The the seeds that you are planting today with every video that you put out, with any interview that you do that is sowing seeds where somebody will be like, oh, I'm going to try that, or I'm going to do this. And it just, I, I would encourage you to keep sowing those seeds, and I would encourage any listener to know that growth is possible. and to see, you know, hold fast to that, which is good, I don't know.

Ann Forti (01:07:45) - Do you have any do you have any closing thoughts?

Michael Locke (01:07:47) - I do have a request, and perhaps you could either clip this part or just ask the audience because I would want them to answer this, this request of mine. I've got so much, I've got so much stuff and notes and just notebooks, and I've got. I've got notebooks filled with just stuff and information and things that I've tried and found. And when I try to consolidate it into those YouTube videos, I don't. I consolidate very targeted things. You know, like what's helped me or the mechanisms of the PMF and all these things that I'm trying. There's all this information in my head and I don't want to if and when I get better, I don't want it to just, you know, go away. I want to be sharing this information because exactly. I would not be where I am informationally if it wasn't for react 19 or FLQ, or even to a greater degree, just the random people on Facebook that I've spoken with for the past eight months.

Michael Locke (01:08:43) - So what information are you could, if someone could let me know or email me or whatever, what information you're looking for, whether it's the service information or the information on the connective tissue disorders that cause all these compressions and the blood pooling or the iliac vein stent or these different peptides and peptides.

Ann Forti (01:09:03) - You have so much information.

Michael Locke (01:09:04) - There's so much. It's it's it's like, analysis. analysis. What is it? Paralysis by analysis. There's just so much there that I could share with people, but I don't know where to start. So what I've been doing is just taking a backseat from social media and just doing my own thing. But I want to share it because, as the I guess it's cliche and and very true that if I can help one person, then it's, it's.

Ann Forti (01:09:29) - That makes the difference. That makes a difference. Michael, thank you so much. Everybody follow. all the links will be in the show notes. Follow Michael. You know, be there. You know, sharing just like he is.

Ann Forti (01:09:42) - And again, I truly believe that there will be a harvest of good fruit, in the years. Well, hopefully in the months ahead.

Michael Locke (01:09:51) - it'll be a good year.

Ann Forti (01:09:52) - Yeah. Yes. So thank you so much, Michael.